A lot to unpack here from this exchange he had a few hours ago.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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Sometime in 2018 and onward, Lloyd hid the actual money he was pulling in and revealed only the amount of patrons. My guess is he didn’t want people to know the actual amount he was pulling in as it neared $2000 so he could keep up the narrative that donations were needed to keep the videos coming and the holidays paid for by local JWs. He was always whining on Twitter about YT demonetising a video before giving a Patreon link. The tweets are all there. He excelled at guilting people to join as Patrons to cover his claimed “losses” from YT.
Just by eyeballing this, he was earning $1721 per month with roughly 200 patrons circa 2018. If you extrapolate that data by rounding up and doubling it, he’s earning roughly $4000-$4500 a month with his Patrons as they sit today. Add another $4000 a month to that to give you a picture of what he was pulling in when he got on the flight to Thailand. That’s assuming all the tiers and ratios stayed the same from 2018 onward. Could be more and could be less but I think it’s a safe bet he’s currently taking home $4000 to $5000 net monthly after Patreon gets their cut and you factor in YT, Google, book revenue and what remains of his “green handshakes”.
The steep increase of Patrons from 2020 onward was probably due to him becoming more and more visible on the Remini show, TTATT documentary, IICSA, various media outlets using him as a source, etc. He regularly gave updates about TTATT project so much so that people were donating to him thinking it was to TTATT. TTATT actually had their own crowdfund on top of it, which Evans benefitted from by means of hotel rooms, flights, dinners and other filming related events.
What else can I tell you? He’s been playing all of you for years and still is to an extent. If Kim didn’t step toward he’d be earning well into six figures right now and it explains why he’s so determined to get it all back. That’s why he wants to hire a housekeeper. He can afford it and wants to continue living his lifestyle. -
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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Guess who's moving on up.from a basement bunker to the Attic?
Use the theme song from The Jeffersons.
now 461
Might want to rethink renting a space unless that pic is from the in-law's place. 440 is the magic number where his Patronage is essentially half of what it was. 380 is the goal previous to that.
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Paging Lloyd: I have information that will lead to the arrest of Kim Silvio. Go get her Lloyd, she’s in the UK right now!
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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Issuing “rebuttals” for everything is just the way Lloyd Evans’ thinking process goes. He truly believes he’s the smartest guy in any given room and surrounds himself with people who agree. When he was on this forum, he’d wade into a discussion offering a breakdown of his thoughts. Even people who essentially agreed with his position were often told there wasn’t something they had a complete handle over and needed to do their own research to come over to his line of thinking. It’s always right or wrong with him, with his position always being the correct one.
I did my own mental rebuttals to convention material whilst I was still attending them. It’s not like we’re debating academic scholars on this; this is Jehovah’s Witnesses after all. If you need Lloyd’s take on a convention from a religion you left to feel validated, then you really need to do you own research. Lloyd’s 607 rebuttal is basically a reiteration of Carl Olaf Jonsson’s late 1970s treatise he submitted to the GB and later formed the basis of his book. Anyone reading Carl’s book is capable of doing a 607 rebuttal. Likewise most of Lloyd’s critiques of the GB are drawn from Raymond Franz’s and James Penton’s books and later Barbara Anderson’s insider info.
This is also why he’s branching out into rebutting the Mormons. There are a lot of publications out there that one can read to give them adequate info to debate a Mormon. I personally find little benefit in someone from a JW background debating a Mormon. I actually feel sympathy towards those missionaries in Croatia that there’s this disgusting slob of a person pretending he’s interested in their religion when he’s only seeking to add content he can make money off of.
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Someone’s trying to harvest for Patrons before the end of month drop. Note the post has been up for 7 hours and has only 17 likes.
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Lloyd did quite well with green handshakes and I can’t even remember an overseas trip that wasn’t funded at least in part by the local JWs. I know of at least two such donors who would send him $100-$200 a month through PayPal and have now stopped.
Expect more videos with American Mormon missionaries in Croatia. His days of flying overseas with the tab picked up by the locals are over. The secret is out that he spent rather indulgently on himself with donations and that’s why he’s making threats toward people who expose him.
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Lloyd is not fulfilling his Patreon goal promises. At 220 Patrons he pledges one documentary a year where he would travel to and film on location.
At 380 patrons he promised to expand his documentary work by traveling to more “diverse” locations, organising more meetups and doing a TED talk.
We’re almost into August and not only has none of this occurred, but he hasn’t even planned anything. It’s not hard to imagine why this hasn’t occurred and I don’t mean just the scandal. He has lost at least half his income and all this would come out of his pocket for at best minimal benefit to his channel and fortunes. The people who used to arrange all these trips and meetups for him he has alienated and he’d be going to locations abroad with virtually no support beyond Tibor (for whose travel costs he’d be responsible for) and his remaining stalwarts who would show and offer little assistance other than cheerleading him. Also the cost of paying Tibor for editing such a documentary would put him into a deficit when all is said and done.
It’s always just been a method for him to pocket the money, nothing else. These Patreon benchmarks are nothing more than marketing. So he’s a bit stuck right now with not enough Patrons to fund such endeavours which he desperately needs right now to inject some renewed vigour into his channel.
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No it’s not Louise Goode’s voice, don’t know who it is though.
Cora Latham maybe? Marc Latham was in the comments section leaving supportive messages for Lloyd about the video so this was when they were still friends.
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Seriously, go read his comments on that video. This is vintage Lloyd! He has to just add snark to every reply of his. If you don’t want to read, here are some choice snippets from different comments he made:
“Yes I am in contact with her [Conti] and her mother, and I’ve spoken personally with her lawyer. Your point?”
”If you were truly abused yourself, then you should feel some sympathy towards children who have their accusations of abuse ignored of even silenced…”
”I have blocked her. Anyway she said she was leaving! If anyone has let you down it is her”
“Have you done any research on this? You have got to be the worst apostate ever!!”
“Not only are you lousy apostates, you are also lousy at critiquing”
“It seems your arguments are beginning to unravel even in your own mind”
(Talking about WT policies with an apostate): “By the way, it wasn’t you who wrote it by any chance? Just a thought.”
“If you have finally left the discussion, I can’t say I’m sorry to see the back of you”
“I would recommend you do some research on the case before making ignorant statements such as these”
“That is where you fail the objectivity test”
“You’re attacking me because you evidently can’t be bothered to do research and give this some thought as I and others have”
“OriginalJoseyWales: a perfect example of your ignorance”
“That means you are a JW. Case closed. A non-JW wouldn’t object.”
“You seem to miss the point”
”You’re a hypocrite (and I think I know where you learned your trade)”
“Your reply exposes an ignorance of the way these things work”
“Really? That’s the best response you can come up with?”
“Strange you think I’m “low” for not allowing a troll on this video, but you have no problem with the Governing Body lying to you. Check out JWSurvey.org”
“You are so ignorant it’s almost painful.”
”If anyone here is failing to be objective, I sense it is you”
There are so many more comments in this vein. What an incredible dick. I cannot fathom how this guy was allowed anywhere near doubting JWs and newly exited ones. For asking questions or taking issue with something, he condescendingly insults them like it’s some sort of game.